Randi Rhodes -> WTC Inside Explosives Attack
The Randi Rhodes Show -> Charges PRE-SET after 1993 WTC Attack: "not a question of who's fault things are. They are globalist operations that occur on different leaders' watches.
Yes - black ops against the citizenry have ocurred on Bill Clinton's watch. OKC was a government op (if that sounds odd, do some research on the additional bombs diffused by the OKC police after the alleged truck bomb went off. It's all documented, and has been scrubbed from the public record. But the local TV video still exists.)
Anyone who thinks the globalists have a favorite 'team' when it comes to ideology is kidding themselves. Okay... maybe they like the GOP a little more. They won the Super Bowl with that team. But they successfully play ball with both sides, always have.
But I firmly believe the story about Clinton being offered Osama in the Sudan in 1995 is probably true (as much as it grinds my ass to agree with Sean Hannity). But he had little choice in the matter - Osama was (and still is) an FBI asset, and neede to be in place for the upcoming operations.
p.s. In regards to this being "scrubbed" from Heard on the Show", I believe Randi needs to ease into these topics gradually. Too often it looks like ammunition for GOP target practice.
This post has been edited by Rumpl4skn: Jan 24 2006, 05:34 PM
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By the way I agree about the Black Ops comment too.....and they could have planted the explosives right after GW Bush took oath in 2000. The PNAC Project for a New American Century (PNAC) Website LINK....Just look at their Mission Statement....and look at their list of founding members....Anyone's names look familiar? Cheny, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, JEB BUSH, Steve Forbes etc. Members List for PNAC
Bush administration
After the 2000 election of George W. Bush, many of the PNAC's members were appointed to key positions within the new President's administration:
Name Department Title Remarks
Elliott Abrams National Security Council Representative for Middle Eastern Affairs President of the Ethics and Public Policy Center
Richard Armitage Department of State (2001-2005) Deputy Secretary of State
John R. Bolton Department of State U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Previously served as Undersecretary for Arms Control and International Security Affairs in the first administration of GWB.
Richard Cheney Bush Administration Vice President PNAC founder
Seth Cropsey Voice of America Director of the International Broadcasting Bureau
Paula Dobriansky Department of State Undersecretary of State for Global Affairs
Francis Fukuyama President's Council on Bioethics Council Member Professor of International Political Economy at Johns Hopkins University
Bruce Jackson U.S. Committee on NATO President
Zalmay Khalilzad U.S. Embassy Baghdad, Iraq U.S.Ambassador to Iraq Previously served as U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan from November 2003 to June 2005
Lewis Libby Bush Administration Chief of Staff for the Vice President Indicted by Grand Jury on charges of Obstruction of Justice, False Statements and Perjury and resigned October 28, 2005.
Peter W. Rodman Department of Defense Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security
Donald Rumsfeld Department of Defense Secretary of Defense PNAC founder and previously Chairman of the Board of Gilead Sciences Developer of Tamiflu
Randy Scheunemann U.S. Committee on NATO, Project on Transitional Democracies, International Republican Institute Member Founded the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq.
Paul Wolfowitz World Bank President Deputy Secretary of Defense, 2001-2005
Dov S. Zakheim Department of Defense Comptroller
Robert B. Zoellick Department of State Deputy Secretary of State Office of the United States Trade Representative (2001-2005);
Gary Bauer, former presidential candidate, president of American Values
William J. Bennett, former Secretary of Education and Drug Czar, co-founder of Empower America, author of the Book of Virtues
Ellen Bork, deputy director of PNAC, and wife of failed Reagan Supreme Court nominee Robert Bork
Rudy Boschwitz, former US Senator from Minnesota
Jeb Bush, governor of Florida
Eliot A. Cohen, professor of strategic studies at Johns Hopkins University
Thomas Donnelly, director of communications, Lockheed Martin
Steve Forbes, multi-billionaire publisher of Forbes Magazine, former presidential candidate
Aaron Friedberg, director of the Center of International Studies
Frank Gaffney, columnist, founder of Center for Security Policy
Reuel Marc Gerecht, director of the Middle East Initiative
Fred Ikle, Center for Strategic and International Studies
Donald Kagan, Yale University professor, conservative columnist with various State Department ties
Jeane Kirkpatrick, former U.S. ambassador
Charles Krauthammer
William Kristol, a PNAC founder and chairman, editor of the Weekly Standard
Christopher Maletz
Daniel McKivergan
Richard Perle, a PNAC founder, formerly of the Defense Policy Board
Norman Podhoretz, Hudson Institute
Dan Quayle, former vice-president
Stephen Rosen, Beton Michael Kaneb Professor of National Security and Military Affairs, Harvard University
Henry Rowen, former president of Rand Corporation
Gary Schmitt
George Weigel, political commentator
R. James Woolsey, former director of the CIA for Bill Clinton, vice-president at Booz Allen & Hamilton
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http://www.airamericaplace.com/upload/aarr012306.mp32006...the Real 9/11 Story comes out.[or not]
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Senator, when you took your oath of office, you placed your hand on the Bible and swore to uphold the Constitution. You didn't place your hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible."-Jamie Raskin, testifying Wednesday, March 1, 2006
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http://www.newamericancentury.org/
http://www.reopen911.org/
Well, it's certainly more accurate and factual than the official fable about 19 little Arab elves with box cutters.
I'm willing to admit the explosives were probably set 9-3 months in advance.
There, hows that?
This post has been edited by ERobertG: Feb 1 2006, 05:48 PM
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The official story of 9/11 is the real conspiracy theory.
9/11 was an inside job. Want proof?
Look, read, watch, and learn: Scholars for 9/11 truth
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Just keep in mind - a purely ideologically-driven website is not the premium place to make progress on the 9/11 story. Sure, it would be great to have exposure everywhere, and every mention is going to accelerate the cause. But as I've said many times, the Perps play ball with both sides, and they are very adept at throwing bones to the left and right equally.
Case in point - the Bill Clinton / Sudan issue, where it was reported that he was "handed Osama on a silver platter" by the Sudanese government. At the time, I figured it was most likely partisan-driven bullshit to discredit a President the Right hated with such intensity they'd say anything. But at the time I was less aware of the depth and scope of the globalists' entanglements with just about every occupant of the Oval Office since Truman. Now I tend to believe the scenario may have ocurred, and it would make sense that Clinton's FBI would have nixed any such action, because they knew that preserving Osama as the boogieman would be crucial to ops in the pipeline. The "international terror" scam was already in place as the globalists' justification for geo-political goals. Naturally, when the story came out, the easiest guy to blame is an out of office President. (Plus, it leaves the intel community out of the loop, thereby watering down any hints of the Perps existance.) So, the Right had an awful-sounding talking point for the nit-wits like Hannity to spew over and over against Bill Clinton. But when the 9/11 Commission Report came out, they took care of that little detail - suddenly the event never happened, Clinton was cleared, and the Left had their reason to begin quoting the 9/11 Report verbatim.
The Perps thrive on the 2-party system here in the States, and they enthusiastically encourage the little ideological sideshow it provides as cover for what's really going on in the upper echelons of power.
So....... don't count on these liberal websites to give you total satisfaction on the uncovering of 9/11. They certainly can help, and they have. But as the scope of the deception becomes more obvious, and the guilt begins to emerge on both sides of the aisle, the pure ideologues will lose their will to support the concept. And there is a certain amount of a "tainted agenda" implication here - it's already likely that the majority of 9/11 skeptics are from the Left, so we have to be strident in our efforts to make both sides see this issue for what it is - a stand-up to the uber powerful and the evil. As the 9/11 Truth Movement continues to gain momentum as it has, the Right will accelerate the slander campaign - any Liberal who supports this will be painted as simply "trying to reverse lost elections." Hopefully, after 2006, that argument will be taken off the table, when the Dems regain some power in Congress. (We can only hope.)
All I can say is keep pushing, keep talking about it, and hope for the best. But this is not a political witch hunt that is going to round up Republicans and leave Democrats unscathed, and that will be the sticking point.
--------------------Case in point - the Bill Clinton / Sudan issue, where it was reported that he was "handed Osama on a silver platter" by the Sudanese government. At the time, I figured it was most likely partisan-driven bullshit to discredit a President the Right hated with such intensity they'd say anything. But at the time I was less aware of the depth and scope of the globalists' entanglements with just about every occupant of the Oval Office since Truman. Now I tend to believe the scenario may have ocurred, and it would make sense that Clinton's FBI would have nixed any such action, because they knew that preserving Osama as the boogieman would be crucial to ops in the pipeline. The "international terror" scam was already in place as the globalists' justification for geo-political goals. Naturally, when the story came out, the easiest guy to blame is an out of office President. (Plus, it leaves the intel community out of the loop, thereby watering down any hints of the Perps existance.) So, the Right had an awful-sounding talking point for the nit-wits like Hannity to spew over and over against Bill Clinton. But when the 9/11 Commission Report came out, they took care of that little detail - suddenly the event never happened, Clinton was cleared, and the Left had their reason to begin quoting the 9/11 Report verbatim.
The Perps thrive on the 2-party system here in the States, and they enthusiastically encourage the little ideological sideshow it provides as cover for what's really going on in the upper echelons of power.
So....... don't count on these liberal websites to give you total satisfaction on the uncovering of 9/11. They certainly can help, and they have. But as the scope of the deception becomes more obvious, and the guilt begins to emerge on both sides of the aisle, the pure ideologues will lose their will to support the concept. And there is a certain amount of a "tainted agenda" implication here - it's already likely that the majority of 9/11 skeptics are from the Left, so we have to be strident in our efforts to make both sides see this issue for what it is - a stand-up to the uber powerful and the evil. As the 9/11 Truth Movement continues to gain momentum as it has, the Right will accelerate the slander campaign - any Liberal who supports this will be painted as simply "trying to reverse lost elections." Hopefully, after 2006, that argument will be taken off the table, when the Dems regain some power in Congress. (We can only hope.)
All I can say is keep pushing, keep talking about it, and hope for the best. But this is not a political witch hunt that is going to round up Republicans and leave Democrats unscathed, and that will be the sticking point.
The truth is out there. And the official story is WAY out there.
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I tend to agree with you that both sides are actually one side both serving the same master. Frankly I am not concerned who is implicated in the 9/11 conspiracy. Anyone spreading the official lie for whatever reason is going to hear about it from me. I love Randi but it will be a short lived love if she continues to repeate the official fable. And cramming this topic next to conspiracy theories is insulting and obviously done by design to make us appear to be kooks. 9/11 is the GIANT ELEPHANT in the middle of the room and refusing to talk about it while quietly repeating the official bullshit is NOT going to cut it.
You think that's bad...
http://www.airamericaplace.com/boards/index.php?act=SF&f=28
Air America Place make you put all 9/11 Truth in the Tinfoil Section.
This post has been edited by ERobertG: Feb 2 2006, 10:28 AM
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DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT look at the 9/11 Truth Movement as some sort of partisan witch-hunt to bring down Republicans. It will last 5 minutes with that approach.================///
I tend to agree with you that both sides are actually one side both serving the same master. Frankly I am not concerned who is implicated in the 9/11 conspiracy. Anyone spreading the official lie for whatever reason is going to hear about it from me. I love Randi but it will be a short lived love if she continues to repeate the official fable. And cramming this topic next to conspiracy theories is insulting and obviously done by design to make us appear to be kooks. 9/11 is the GIANT ELEPHANT in the middle of the room and refusing to talk about it while quietly repeating the official bullshit is NOT going to cut it.
You think that's bad...
http://www.airamericaplace.com/boards/index.php?act=SF&f=28
Air America Place make you put all 9/11 Truth in the Tinfoil Section.
This post has been edited by ERobertG: Feb 2 2006, 10:28 AM
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I will post on a board that treats this subject with respect. Libertas go ahead and ban me now I have no respect at all for this message board anymore. It is censorship sticking 9/11 in the conspiracy theory section or the TinFoil section and you are cowardly to do so. Maybe when you and Randi and AAR grow a set of balls and start exposing the truth about 9/11 I and people like me will start respecting you again. Until then you are just another dupe of the Bush crime family helping them keep the lie going. Goodbye for now to my friends (you know who you are).--------------------
...In my opinion the media system that participated in the cover up and enabled the true criminals to escape justice for these past few years should be completely dismantled. Every media empire owner, editor, news producer, talk show host, writer, and reporter that participated should not only be fired on the spot but be investigated as an accomplice to the crime. Without their constant barage of propaganda the truth would have come out long ago. The media is just as guilty as the scum that attacked us on 9/11.
...In my opinion the media system that participated in the cover up and enabled the true criminals to escape justice for these past few years should be completely dismantled. Every media empire owner, editor, news producer, talk show host, writer, and reporter that participated should not only be fired on the spot but be investigated as an accomplice to the crime. Without their constant barage of propaganda the truth would have come out long ago. The media is just as guilty as the scum that attacked us on 9/11.
The official story of 9/11 is the real conspiracy theory.
9/11 was an inside job. Want proof?
Look, read, watch, and learn: Scholars for 9/11 truth
All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
================9/11 was an inside job. Want proof?
Look, read, watch, and learn: Scholars for 9/11 truth
All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
Consider this - one of the Truth Movement's best allies in government is Republican Rep. Curt Weldon of Pennsylvania, and he doesn't even know the truth. Curt is working on the uncovering of the Able Danger scam, in which 2.5 terabytes of data on Mohammed Atta's Brooklyn "al-Qaeda cell" was ordered destroyed by higher ups at the FBI. Field operative in quesion is Lt. Anthony Shaffer, who has - since turning whistelblower on this embarassment - been fired from his position, had his security clearance removed, and has been character assassinated as well (when nothing else would stick, the FBI had the balls to accuse him of "stealing pencils." I wish that was a funny as it sounds, and I wish I was making it up, but I'm not.)
Now, bear in mind that Curt is working on the premise that 19 hijackers flew those planes into their targets on 9/11, and that the FBI had data that revealed facts surrounding the hijackers themselves almost a year before it happened. What he really has there is evidence of the FBI creating and sustaining it's patsies - the Lee Harvey Oswalds of 9/11. They certainly knew all about Atta and the others, because key higher-ups there were in on the gameplan. Atta and his non-existant accomplices were to remain under the radar until Sept. 12th, when suddenly they were able to "track them down." It's all horseshit, of course. And there are opther key FBI whistleblowers being gagged even yet (Sibel Edmonds, Indirah Singh, etc.). It's an across the board shut-down of contrary information, and they are working hard 24/7 - using our tax dollars, I might add - to do it.
But even though Weldon is aiming at the wrong target, at least he's firing off some shots that are garnering notice in Congress. Certainly, there are many mebers of Congress who are part and party to 9/11. I can name a few: Lee Hamilton, Gary Bauer, Jack Murtha (gasp! Yes, Murtha. More on that later.) And there is and has been stiff opposition to Weldon's claims, but so far he hasn't givern up.
And these people have ENDLESS resources and funds to work with. Max Cleland was an original member of the 9/11 Commission. A few months into the "investigation" (if you can stand to call it that) Max stated "Bush is scamming America... it's disgusting. America is being cheated." A few months after he resigned in disgust, guess what good fortune befell Max Cleland? He was offered a cushy position at the world bank. He was bought off, plain and simple. And that happens everywhere, since it's infinitely easier to pay someone in the public eye to keep quiet about what they've seen than it is to arrange their suicide. If you're not well-known enough, you're about to have a "one car accident on a deserted road, with lots of alcohol in your bloodstream", even if you've never had a drink or don't know how to drive.
But pay close attention to these 3 people in particular - Curt Weldon, Cynthia McKinney, Mark Dayton.
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I have to agree 100% with you. The only reason they are not talking about the truth of 9/11 is because they have choosen to participate in the lie. Anyone who does not know the official story is bullshit by now has refused to look at the facts. That to me is a coward or an intentional liar. May the gatekeepers choak on their own lies.
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I'm assuming some of you are aware of the bombshell that Mike Malloy dropped on Friday night's show. 9/11 coverup, all night, all angles, all calls.
http://www.911blogger.com/files/audio/MikeMalloy20060203.mp3
I'm afraid that our Randi is now faced with a choice - she can also come out of the closet on this, or she and Mike are going to have some interesting discussions at the station planning meetings.
Mike is fearless - he is aware of the reality now, and he can't keep quiet about it, even if it costs him his job. He knows he can't blurt out certain things, but he's not going to sit behind his microphone anymore and pretend this didn't happen.
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Mike Malloy did a nice plug last night for Dylan Avery's 9/11 documentary "Loose Change."
He watched Version 2 the other night, and spent several minutes early in the show, giving it a glowing thumbs-up review.
Here's the show thanks to the White Rose Society. [free views @google.com , FYI]
http://server4.whiterosesociety.org/conten...06-02-2006).mp3
Mike is the only truly relevant person on Air America Radio.
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"The anti-war movement, first and foremost, needs to develop a laser-like focus on being nothing more or less than anti-war...It needs to start thinking like a warrior would, in full recognition that we as a nation are engaged in a life-or-death struggle of competing ideologies with those who promote war as an American value and virtue." - Scott Ritter
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crack in Hoover Dam, with all the pent up water and energy of Lake Mead behind it.
As a side note, Andy Card resigned today, wasn't he the first to tell El Presidente about the 9/11 attacks?Hmm...
BTW...I caught the end of Ed Asner was on today on Greg Szymanski's show of RBN Network.
It appears that old warrior of liberal causes won't disappoint..
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A vocal leftist, Asner served two terms as president of the Screen Actors Guild, where he controversially opposed US policy in Central America. He has also been active in a variety of other causes, such as the movement to free Mumia Abu-Jamal, and is a prominent member of the Democratic Socialists of America. His political position may also have motivated him to play the voice of the pig-like villain Hoggish Greedly on the pro-environmental animated series Captain Planet and the Planeteers [1] and the voice for the sinister Ed Wuncler in The Boondocks (television series).
He has signed the 911 Truth Statement [2] calling for new investigations of disturbing questions about the 9/11 events, including the failure of US intelligence to act on warnings of upcoming attacks, the breakdown of military air defense, and the nature of the investigations. Asner has also reviewed 9/11 literature and videos, including a recent review for the film 9/11 Guilt: The Proof is in Your Hands.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Asner
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Ed Asner said CNN cancelled out...
I wonder what happened?
He did the first hour on Greg Szymanski's show on RBN.
Tue., March 28, 2006:
Greg was joined in the first hour with respected actor and human rights activist, Ed Asner, and Bob Dumas, who is trying to get to the truth about the POW scandal and why our government has lied about GI's being "Missing and Presumed Dead" when many are still alive. Listen to Asner as he also spoke about seeking the truth behind 9/11 and the Iraqi War, as well as supporting recent statements made by Charlie Sheen that the government is lying about 9/11.
http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Greg06.html
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That is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know. Treachery Secretary Donald Rumsfeld
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Disclaimer - I am not an explosives expert. This page is pure speculation just for you to think about. It's purpose is not to prove this device is responsible for the exit hole, but is simply to demonstrate there is a mechanism that can cause damage similar to what we see in regards to the exit hole. This test also happens to be on a brick wall. This device is called a Rapid Wall Breaching Kit.
http://www.pentagonresearch.com/091.html
The Rapid Wall Breaching Kit...
http://www.ebaerospaceanddefense.com/defen...d_breaching.php
Rapid Wall Breaching Kit. You can read about it here .
This is the phenomenon we are trying to account for. Let's start with a few observations. The hole is exactly dead center between the columns. The pipes are evenly arced out. They don't have any indication of having an angular bend in accordance with a solid object. There is no sustained fire in or around the hole even though some of the debris appears flammable. The debris is not even scorched or burnt on this side of the wall. Bricks are sprayed to the left in this photo which is the opposite direction of the alleged aircraft nose. There is no aircraft nose or any aircraft parts of size. Since this photo is taken by an official I would assume if they were there, we would have seen photos of them.
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t the center of Freud's work lies a fundamental perception: human beings are not generally unified creatures. Our psyches are not whole, but divided into parts, and those parts are usually in conflict with one another. The id, or the "it," is an agent of pure desire: it wants and wants and does not readily take no for an answer. The superego, or over-I, is the internal agent of authority. It often looks harshly upon the id and its manifold wants. The superego, in fact, frequently punishes the self simply for wishing for forbidden things, even if the self does not act on those wishes at all. Then there is the ego, trying to broker between the it and the over-I, and doing so with the greatest of difficulty, in part because both agencies tend to operate outside the circle of the ego's awareness. The over-I and the it often function unconsciously. Add to this problem the fact that "the poor ego," as Freud often calls it, must navigate a frequently hostile outside world, and it is easy to see how, for Freud, life is best defined as ongoing conflict. In a passage in "The Ego and the Id," Freud observes that the ego is a "poor creature owing service to three masters and consequently menaced by three dangers: from the external world, from the libido of the id and from the severity of the superego. Three kinds of anxiety correspond to these three dangers, since anxiety is the expression of a retreat from danger."
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