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Grant Mason Oct 5 1990, 8:28 pm show options
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Date: 5 Oct 90 14:24:36 GMT
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Subject: Is there a program ?
Does anyone out there have a Unix or C program which can 'interrogate' the
actor/actress files?
What I want to be able to do is to type in an actor/actress' name and get out
a list of all the
films which they appeared in. Similarly, typing in a film name would give a
list of all the
actors/actresses who were in that film.
Can anybody help ? I'm not a programmer, so doing this myself is
impossible.....
If you can, please e-mail me directly (see below).
Cheers,
Grant
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Colin Needham Oct 8 1990, 5:31 am show options
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Date: 7 Oct 90 22:05:30 GMT
Local: Sun, Oct 7 1990 5:05 pm
Subject: Re: Is there a program ?
g...@cstr.ed.ac.uk (Grant Mason) writes:
> Does anyone out there have a Unix or C program which can 'interrogate' the
> actor/actress files? What I want to be able to do is to type in an
> actor/actress' name and get out a list of all the films which they appeared
> in. Similarly, typing in a film name would give a list of all the
> actors/actresses who were in that film.
> Can anybody help ? I'm not a programmer, so doing this myself is impossible.
Well I can't provide you with exactly what you want, but I have a Unix
script which might be of some use. It is included at the end of
this posting as a shell archive. I use it as part of the process of
incorporating changes in the actors list.
Note: I am posting this message rather than mailing to give others the
opportunity of experimenting with the script. I am willing to act as a
coordinator if anyone has any suggestions or working programs.
The script (called 'explist') takes a list file as an argument and produces
what I term a list database on the standard output. The format of a list
database is simply:
|
<br />
<br />To get the kind of functionality you require, run the script over the various
<br />lists and concatenate the databases into one file. The combined database
<br />can then be searched using 'grep', 'awk' or some other text processor. It
<br />shouldn't take too much effort to add a simple user interface to request
<br />a name or title and format the output.
<br />
<br />There is one problem with the script: the actress list has to be edited
<br />before it is processed. The name fields for "Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio"
<br />and "Cassandra Peterson (aka Elivira)" occupy two lines and need to be
<br />shortened (I suggest to "Mary Mastrantonio" and "Cassandra Peterson").
<br />Also each of the following titles are split over two lines and should be
<br />joined on to one:
<br />
<br />"Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the Eigth Dimension, The"
<br />"Bionic Showdown: The Six Million Dollar Man and the Bionic Woman (TV)"
<br />"End of the World in Our Usual Bed in a Night Full of Rain, The"
<br />"Dealing: or The Berkley-to-Boston Forty-Brick Lost-Bag Blues"
<br />
<br />The other lists do not split long titles and hence can be processed as
<br />published.
<br />
<br />Hope this helps,
<br />
<br />Col
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<br />"Look at it this way, in a hundred years who's gonna care ?"
<br /> -- The Terminator
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<br />Col Needham | Phone: +44 272 799910 x 24131
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<br />
<br />#---------------------------------- cut here ----------------------------------
<br /># This is a shell archive. Remove anything before this line,
<br /># then unpack it by saving it in a file and typing "sh file".
<br />#
<br /># Wrapped by Colin Needham <cn@otter> on Sun Oct 7 22:40:55 1990
<br />#
<br /># This archive contains:
<br /># explist
<br />#
<br /># Error checking via wc(1) will be performed.
<br />
<br />LANG=""; export LANG
<br />PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:$PATH; export PATH
<br />
<br />echo x - explist
<br />cat >explist <<'@EOF'
<br />#!/bin/sh
<br />
<br /># Author: Col Needham
<br />#
<br /># Usage: explist <list>
<br />#
<br /># Purpose: read in a list & produce a list database on the standard output
<br />
<br />expand $1 | awk '/^[A-Z]/ {s1=substr($0,1,24)} /^[A-Z\t ]/ {print s1 "|" substr($0,25,80)}' | sed -e 's/ *|/|/' | grep -v '|$'
<br />@EOF
<br />set `wc -lwc <explist`
<br />if test $1$2$3 != 947264
<br />then
<br /> echo ERROR: wc results of explist are $* should be 9 47 264
<br />fi
<br />
<br />chmod 777 explist
<br />
<br />exit 0
<br />
<br />End
<br />
<br />======================
<br />
<br />
<br />IMDB Bottom 100 List
<br />(Score:5, Funny)
<br />by PhatboySlim (862704) Alter Relationship on Monday October 17, @03:26PM (#13811789)
<br />How did Britney's Spears' Crossroads movie end up on IMDB's Bottom 100 [imdb.com] list? It's like the best movie of all time! Thank God that movies like Gigli, Son of the Mask, and From Justin to Kelly aren't on this list! Oh wait, there they are....
<br />
<br />Guess I should be on the lookout for "Legend Of Zorro" to be appearing here soon as well...
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<br />Be sure to remember the Programmers Prayer [jokesaround.com]
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<br />Good and bad on IMDB
<br />(Score:5, Informative)
<br />by Belseth (835595) Alter Relationship on Monday October 17, @06:17PM (#13812976)
<br />I use IMDB but I'm not a big fan. I have over 300 films under my belt and yet I have maybe a dozen listings. They demand verification of credits so I gave up on them years ago. They had two glaring errors in my listing so I contacted them both times and both times they refused to correct the mistakes until I threatened legal action. I nearly lost a job because a Producer believed the credits on IMDB were accurate and questioned my resume. I was forced to verify some of my biggest credits before he'd accept the bulk of my resume. Most put too much faith in IMDB which makes it dangerous to the working people in the industry. A friend has an academy award and to this day they refuse to acknowledge it in his bio. It's a handy but over used service given how wildly inaccurate the information can be in the listings and they aren't inclined to correct errors.
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<br />bittorrent as a business???
<br />(Score:5, Insightful)
<br />by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 17, @04:49PM (#13812432)
<br />I may be a good way to share files, but I'm afraid the investors are throwing their money away. It's like trying to make money off of FTP.
<br />==========
<br />
<br /> How can this company be worth 8.75 million
<br />
<br />When Fortune magazine runs a story on the CEO.
<br />
<br />The name BitTorrent is alone worth that. This is a name millions and millions of people know - it would take more than $8.75 million dollars to achieve that through advertising
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<br />sorry- just skimmed this- contentious! maybe dorky dank drunk
<br />
<br />enough with the aspergers
<br />(Score:5, Insightful)
<br />by circletimessquare (444983) Alter Relationship <circletimessquare&gmail,com> on Monday October 17, @05:06PM (#13812560)
<br />there's always been smart people who can do complex topological analysis in their head but can't balance their checkbook
<br />
<br />likewise, there have always been people whose minds always flit from one subject to the next every second- in other words, attention deficit disorder
<br />
<br />but now we have these buzzwords, asperpgers and ADD and others, and people think its some miraculous discovery, and its all they talk about and they act like it explains all sorts of behavior
<br />
<br />but it's just a fad, and meanwhile, the conditions have always been there, always will be there, and those who have these conditions are no more special or less special than the rest of us
<br />
<br />cohen is a smart guy, and he can concentrate on a complex math problem, and he likes to do it, that's all, that's it
<br />
<br />i'm just so sick of everyone jumping on the buzzword bandwagon, it doesn't mean anything
<br />
<br />there once was a time in the 1800s when everyone thought phrenology was the end-all explanation of character and intelligence
<br />
<br />it's long forgotten, like the racist pseudoscience it was
<br />
<br />meanwhile, in a hundred years, when our language and our attention isn't controlled by the marketing department of large pharmaceutical companies, our hypochondriacal way of looking at our mental differences will have moved onto the next stupid fad
<br />--
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<br />He who desires but acts not, breeds pestilence. - William Blake
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<br />I wish him luck
<br />(Score:5, Insightful)
<br />by SimplyBen (898147) Alter Relationship on Monday October 17, @05:39PM (#13812793)
<br />As a founder of a funded startup myself I hope he suceeds, but statistically he won't. Maybe i'm alone here, but i'm having a hardtime envisioning the business model of such a company (and doubt his ability to lead it to profitability). Sure bittorrent is a neat technology: but its just that a technology, and an open one too. It appears to be a long shot, and thats why funding came from venture capitalists. From most slashdotters POV i'm sure that sounds awesome until you realize what accepting venture capital is typically about: 90%+ stock takeovers with rider clauses allowing the investment firm first dibs on any money withdrawn from the company. I hope he hires someone to run the company that can translate whatever products he comes up with into something that can actually be sold.
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<br /><<hmm 'poor guy' ! twerp! >>
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<div style="clear:both;"></div><a href="http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=05/10/17/1546210">Interview with Tony 'Say No to Windows' Bove</a>
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<br />Re:the one thing you won't find in his review
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<br />by brunes69 (86786) Alter Relationship <slashdot&keirstead,org> on Monday October 17, @01:05PM (#13810589)
<br />(http://www.keirstead.org/)
<br />What's your flavour?
<br />
<br />There's Novell-backed OpenExchange [openexchange.com]
<br />
<br />There's Germany-backed Kolab [kolab.org]
<br />
<br />There's RedHat-backed eGroupWare [egroupware.org]
<br />
<br />There's all-open OpenGroupware [opengroupware.org]
<br />
<br />And that's just the tip of it. There are also commercial products.
<br />
<br />Seriously - if you think there are not alternatives to Exchange out there, then either you have not done your homework or are seriously misinformed, or both.
<br />
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<br />Re:2 Problems
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<br />by stlhawkeye (868951) Alter Relationship on Monday October 17, @01:11PM (#13810645)
<br />(http://www.themanpages.net/ | Last Journal: Tuesday September 06, @03:45PM)
<br />2) It assumes that it's the MS programs holding people back, when many desktops are tied because of third party software. For example, in my every-day job, I support dozens of workstations with Macromedia and Adobe software installed - neither of these run natively under Linux, and they run horribly under emulation. Yes, you can find replacement photo editors, but not really replacement video editors that are on par with After Effects, or replacements for Flash that have 95%+ installation base.
<br />
<br />Exactly. Ever try to hire a graphics artist and tell him, "by the way, you'll be using GIMP on our Fedora Core 3 installation"? It's harder than it sounds. Yes, you can all rain down here with THOUSANDS of examples of YOU and YOUR FRIENDS and people YOU KNOW who not only can use GIMP but PREFER it to expensive alternatives. If the sample of Slashdot and its immediate social clique were the norm, we'd live in a pseudosocialist utopia in which all of us are gainfully employed and paid a hundred thousand dollars to work 30 hour weeks developing beautiful open source software that we give away and nobody buys, and all music and entertainment is produced through the honest labor of talented people upon whom we benevolently bestow voluntary payments for their work, and whose labors of love are distributed for free through the software channels that we were paid lots of money to develop. Oh, and Bush isn't president. And global warming stopped. And we all ride bikes to our jobs. And there's no McDonald's or suburbs. And soda is free. So is beer. I could go on, but I moved into the TrollZone about 5 minutes ago.
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<br />A vibrant economy requires resources to be used efficiently. In theory, patents are supposed to help this process by increasing the incentive to invest in capital. Indeed, such investment can benefit both the inventor and the end user. As such, patents encourage the production of new capital, and the new capital is often more efficient at using resources than the previous capital. Thus the economy grows.
<br />
<br />However, it appears as though America is reaching a point where patents interfere with the process so much that productivity is diminished. When an inventor has to search for patents when designing every portion of a capital work, less time is spent on developing the capital itself. Thus the creation of new capital diminishes, and resources are not used as efficiently. That can eventually cause the economy to basically rot.
<br />
<br />This is not what the American economy needs, considering its various other problems (massive debt, inflated stock markets, a housing bubble, and so forth).
<br />
<br />--
<br />Cyric Zndovzny at your service.
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<br />Patents on literary plots
<br />(Score:5, Interesting)
<br />by Christian Engstrom (633834) Alter Relationship <christian,engstrom&glindra,org> on Monday October 17, @03:53PM (#13812000)
<br />(http://www.glindra.org/)
<br />At least we know who will go for the patent for acquiring patents on movie plots. It'll be these enterprising young lawyers [plotpatents.com].
<br />
<br />This decision is quite funny. A couple of months ago, Slashdot was running a story [slashdot.org] about a piece by Richard Stallman [guardian.co.uk] where he made the analogy with the works of Victor Hugo being covered by patents on literary plots. Then there were some posters who thought Dr. Stallman was making an absurd comparison, and that patents on literature would never happen.
<br />
<br />Well, well...
<br />
<br />Meanwhile, in Europe, we have chosen another road. After the victory on July 6, when the European Parliament rejected the software directive, we now have a chance to get one of our activists to win the title "European of the Year" in an open Internet poll organized by a big business magazine.
<br />
<br />Please feel free to go to NoSoftwarePatents.com [nosoftwarepatents.com] for instructions on how to vote, while you contemplate this latest madness by the US patent establishment.
<br />--
<br />glindra.org [glindra.org]: VMS-inspired dir/copy/purge/grep for Windows
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<br />[MPython here, if u cn rd]
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<br />Re:Is NAT Better?
<br />(Score:5, Funny)
<br />by MSZ (26307) Alter Relationship on Monday October 17, @12:24PM (#13810256)
<br />The benefits of IPv6 are numerous, however.
<br />Cisco marketing rep:
<br />NOBODY expects the IPv6!
<br />Our chief benefit is length... greater length of the packet header and and unrememberable addresses...
<br />Our two benefits are greater length of packet header and unrememberable addresses... and rewrite of all network apps....
<br />Our three benefits are length of packet header and unrememberable addresses... and rewrite of all network apps.... and an almost fanatical devotion to some broken standard....
<br />Our four... no...
<br />Amongst our benefits... Amongst our array of benefits... are such elements as greater length of packet header and unrememberable addresses...
<br />I'll come in again.
<br />
<br />But seriously, if IPv6 was so good, it would not require so much pushing. If the IPv4 exhaustion was real and imminent, it would not rquire so much pushing.
<br />--
<br />The moon is not fully subjugated. I demand a second assault wave preceded by a massive nuclear bombardment.
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<br />well, it's not "better" as such, just a different solution. NAT is not a golden bullet though. Yes, it does, by and large prevent random machines on the internet directly contacting your unpatched windows desktop at home, but a firewall will do that too, and virtually every dsl router has a firewall these days too. I would like to see home dsl routers supporting native ipv6 but I don't know of any.
<br />
<br />I think that ipv6 is a good thing to go for, but it's not finished (but then, is ipv4? :). there's lots of advertised features for ipv6 (mandatory encryption, mobile ip etc) that are good on paper, but aren't all that in the real world.
<br />
<br />Mandatory support for ipsec is great.. except how many of us would use it? as there is currently no support for mndatory ipsec encryption to unknown strangers. you've got to be pre-configured for crypto. I'd like to see something like ssh. if you know the key then great, if you don't then you can accept and save one and then while you may not have verified the destination, you're at least protected on the wire. yes, they also need to sort out authentication and perhaps some form of certificate distribution, but lets make a start on something useable.
<br />
<br />mobile IP. sounds great! I can be using my ipv6 pda via my mobile phone and as I walk into my house, it picks up my wireless net and my downloads speed up instantly, all the while not dropping the voip call I'm making. or I'm using a laptop on the train and as it flits from hotspot to hotspot I don't lose any of my connections. sounds great! how does it work? you tell me, details are not easy to find. ots of talk, few working implementations (if I'm wrong, please tell me, I'm genuinely very interested).
<br />
<br />working with networks as part of my job, I know how useful and really annoying NAT can be, and I really think it should be an option, not a requirement. I'd love to see ipv6 rolled out and see what changes it brings, but I also think it needs a fair amount of work still.
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<br />dave
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<br />Re:Is NAT Better?
<br />(Score:5, Insightful)
<br />by saikatguha266 (688325) Alter Relationship on Monday October 17, @12:27PM (#13810285)
<br />Actually, NAT is better because it provides address space isolation. If your organisation has 500 computers that all have a public IP address, it is harder for you to switch providers (500 IPs is too small to get your own address space for). When you switch your provider, you have to renumber all hosts, fix config files, fix DNS servers etc -- a royal pain in the ass. A NAT allows your to keep your internal structure exactly the same while you switch providers. That address isolation is very important for small-mid sized companies.
<br />
<br />Second, NAT helps multihomed corporations. For large companies, your 10k hosts are going to be distributed over many states/countries/ISPs ... and each site advertising its own address space is expensive for the ISP's because they cannot perform route aggregation (since your address space may not line up with the address space of each ISP). NAT solves this by having each site be NAT'ed behind that ISP's IP address (convinient for the ISP, cheaper for the company). The internal company network runs in the private space and when traffic crosses to the public internet, it gets an IP from the ISP it came out of ... consequently replies come back in through the ISP. Read: If you send a packet out of India, the response won't come back inthrough America ... which would otherwise require you to then forward it to India through your company's routers.
<br />
<br />It is this address isolation and multihoming support that drives NAT use in small and large companies. Address space depletion has nothing to do with it. IPv6 does not fix these problems; companies will continue using NATs because NATs do.=====
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<br />blah3 --same contest 2 months ago here in /.
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<br />by BJZQ8 (644168) Alter Relationship on Monday October 17, @11:52AM (#13810004)
<br />(Last Journal: Sunday October 02, @11:20PM)
<br />Until I absolutely HAVE to switch to IPV6, I will keep my much easier-to-remember addresses. Try to remember something like these:
<br />
<br />fe80::02d0:c1ff:fe5c:0010/10
<br />
<br />2002:c0a8:1122::5efe:0a01:0101/48
<br />
<br />2001:7f8:2:c01f::2
<br />I mean, DNS goes a long way towards turning that hex into something memorable, but as a sysadmin it does NOT make my life easier. Let's reclaim some of those /8 blocks allocated to people that barely use them, first. Does E.I duPont REALLY need 0.39% of the internet address space? Does Eli Lily? That is 16777216 addresses, for what? Does Eli Lily even have 16 million adressable devices? It seems to me that we have plenty of IPV4's, it's just the allocation stinks.
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<br />Not any time soon.
<br />(Score:5, Insightful)
<br />by dills (102733) Alter Relationship on Monday October 17, @12:02PM (#13810085)
<br />(http://www.xecu.net)
<br />I have worked in the internet service business for over a decade now. I have seen a lot of things come and go, and a lot of predictions about when we would run out of IP space.
<br />
<br />The bottom line is that the only people who realy WANT a rollout of IPv6 is Cisco. Why? Because the vast majority of their existing installed routers will not support IPv6 with anywhere near the same feature set and packet rate as those routers can handle with IPv4. Thus, IPv6 means people upgrading equipment that isn't really deficient.
<br />
<br />Most people have no concept of:
<br />
<br />a) How much IP space we have left.
<br />b) How extremely inefficent we have been with a large percentage of the address space.
<br />c) How much assigned, announced, and routed space is completely unused.
<br />d) How much the rate of growth has flattened.
<br />e) How wrong every prediction about when we run out of IP space has been thus far.
<br />
<br />If you search the nanog archives, you'll see posts by myself going back many years stating essentially "Somebody tell me why we need IPv6 again?"
<br />
<br />Do not hold your breath. We're 10-15 years away from IPv6, because it will take an even larger gross expenditure for the service providers to upgrade to support IPv6 than it did for the broadcast industry to upgrade to HDTV.
<br />
<br />This is what industries that rely on revenue growth do when their customer growth flattens. They invent a new widget, come up with reasons why everybody needs it, market it, and hopefully everybody buys the product all over again. IPv6 is admittedly a good bit different; it was created by geeks in attempt to solve a perceived problem. However, it was siezed upon by the router vendors as a future "upgrade when growth flattens" path.
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<br />Don't buy into the hype. IPv4 is here to stay for a long time. Even when IPv6 starts to have some decent degree of market penetration, you will always find most of the devices on the net are IPv4 behind IPv6 to IPv4 NATs.
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