Thursday 22 December 2005

3 Email Chiefs Come to Dinner

3 Email Chiefs Come to Dinner: "Re:Google rules!
(Score:5, Interesting)
by CDPatten (907182) Alter Relationship on Wednesday December 21, @04:44PM (#14312866)
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You are way off man. MS has demonstrated one of the best web clients for years; it comes with Exchange and is called outlook web access.

That said, MS and Yahoo both have public beta testing for web clients that are far superior to what google has now. Check them out if you don't believe me. What stops them from going public as quickly as google upgrades is that while google has a few million subscribers the other two have 10 of millions. It's a bit different when you deal with grown up numbers.

Google might have something in the works, but there isn't much buzz in or out of the google campus about it. And as long as their core number of users is small they won't be a real player ... they may be in respects to the media coverage, but certainly not with the numbers."

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Unfortunately, Buchheit kept interrupting to mention advertisers based on what Doerr and Diamond were talking about.
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Better that than the other two popping up big printed advertisements in your face, totally unrelated to what you're talking about.
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And for dinner they had...

(Score:5, Funny)
by bk4u (682315) Alter Relationship on Wednesday December 21, @04:37PM (#14312812)
(http://mywebspace.wi...an/web/BondIntro.htm)
spam egg spam spam bacon and spam
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Remember, kids, with great power comes great opportunity to abuse that power
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AJAX based drag-and-drop email is becoming commonplace now. At this point it's a "must have" feature, and any web based email program that doesn't have it is going to look as if it hasn't been updated since 2004 :)

Yahoo and MSN both have it now. Even the software that drives private email systems has it now. You've probably seen the screenshots for Roundcube [roundcube.net], and you've probably seen the screenshots and swf-demos [citadel.org] of systems like Citadel [citadel.org] and Zimbra [zimbra.com].

The point is, Google was the big trailblazer here, but at this point, everyone is now on that trail. The bar has been raised and rich AJAX webmail has quickly gone past "innovative" and is now "an expectation." Meanwhile, Google is probably busy cooking up the Next Big Thing. We hope. :)
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Gmail.

(Score:4, Interesting)
by TheUncleD (940548) Alter Relationship on Wednesday December 21, @06:37PM (#14313647)
The coolest new thing i've seen in Gmail is their implementation of AJAX in the autocompletion of address book names and other goodies in the system. Makes for easier emailing.
https://mail.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic=1555

Juniper Sues Message Board Posters

Juniper Sues Message Board Posters: "Re:Hmmm?
(Score:4, Insightful)
by susano_otter (123650) Alter Relationship on Wednesday December 21, @04:05PM (#14312546)
(http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Tuesday February 18, @07:51PM)
I think free speech is just like freedom of movement.

As the saying goes 'your freedom to swing your fist ends where my nose begins'.

Likewise, your freedom to say what you like ends where your lies harm me and mine.

I'm not so much proud of 'free speech' per se; it's an inalienable right, after all, not something I can take credit for. Rather, I'm proud of being involved in a political system that seeks to strike a reasonable balance between individual freedom and individual freedom to harm each other.

But tell us, what political system active in the world today allows for greater freedom of speech and expression, and also performs as well or better, in general, than the American one, in your opinion?

Maybe we could learn from it.

Or move there.
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Any sufficiently well-organized community is indistinguishable from Government."
[versus "the incompetence of the administration is indistinguishable from deliberate treachery" , AMEN]
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Depends on if it's true or not
(Score:5, Informative)
by queenb**ch (446380) Alter Relationship on Wednesday December 21, @03:48PM (#14312417)
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For those of you who don't want to chase the link - here's what some of the comments are that have Juniper's undies in a twist -

The company's complaint cites an April 20 message that stated, "the man at the helm seems to be paying (off) attorneys all over the bay area to cover up the scandal which resulted in the terminations of many at the top including the VP of HR. 1) Board of director 2) CFO 3) GM 4) VP of engineering 5) VP of HR and more."

Another message cited in the complaint came a day later. According to the complaint, it said the "top management" at Juniper bribes attorneys, and that "the man at the top should join his buddy Bernie [Ebers (sic)]... "

Another message singled out in the complaint says: "This is a very unethical company."

Of course, Juniper critics can be found at other Internet message boards that aren't, as yet, mentioned in Juniper's complaint. "Arrogance coupled with timidity is a deadly combination in business. So, in short JNPR's problem is Kriens," said one Yahoo Inc. (Nasdaq: YHOO - message board) message board post taking aim at Juniper's CEO Scott Kriens.

Frankly, I don't see where any of these are prosecutable. One is allowed to comment on what one sees in the world, IMHO. Surely if you've had to flush your top managment and start over, there is likely some thing to some of these posts. I personally find it interesting that Juniper has chosen to lend credence to these statements by suing. Since they're suing, my assumption is that it's all true. Ooops, better not say that or Juniper will include me too!

2 cents,

Queen B
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I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters.--Frank L. Wright
[adding: I'm in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of terrorists. Let's start with phones -- brainless bush]