Tuesday, 7 February 2006

!7 LIARS Poker= 'modern' Merkins || BitTorrent Encryption

Real ISSUE here is LIES AND LYING LIARS are fucking EMBRACED by all GOP bastards because
it is the simplest way to an objective.
Gee: evidence: 'unforeknown' WTC, 'WMD',
'unforeseen' Katrina, "(deliberately) INCOMPETENT fema; haliburton 'has quality and ethics'....
their entire menu is 90% extreme untruths masquarading as
some placebo for merkins WAY TOO TUBE-FED
and entirely COMATOSE and OPIATED
and OPRAH-iated to even discern up from down.
THE confusion IS the MEDIA = the MESSAGE and the
brain-dead consequences are a total
ILLITERACY of cognitive truths by 80% of the damn peons whom care and memorize brutal trivia
about foisted shit like 'sports teams' when they know SQUAT about political machinations which will
SOON put them all back into OUTHOUSES and labor camps... because the filthy rich can and have ACHIEVED epochal tyranny via the 98% bought-govt 'system' that has zero affinity for do-gooding besides some damn frosting splashed-atop a rotten cake during a violently hoaxed photo-op. And the cake is composed of carcasses of your brothers and parents from yesterday and tomorrow, because you DONT GIVE ONE DAMN
about foreign genocide and systematic torture of FAKE 'enemies' by you damn military... and in a few months, the only place left to
HUNT THEM DOWN, with this atrocious 'logic' of hate and fear will be your own hometowns. YOU BET YOUR FRIED ASS its true. Your COMPLACENCY about TRAVESTIES already decorated the stage for 'legal' and ARBITRARY purges and blood-letting at any place, by 'the' unitary commander.... even though there is not LEGALLY A DECLARED WAR. TODAY is your last polluted breath. You have embraced the MILLENIUM of gas chambers of so-called 'depleted - uranium' weapons and their deadly detritus ALL OVER your neighbors landscape. Pity their EVIL GOD which CONDEMNED them to birth in an OIL-RICH region.
the end: arund~i Roy style: like breathing w/o a backstep // except for instantaneous in-cam editing... which she could NEVER NEVER claim to not also do upon occaision, and is
not exactly a break with total
truth but is a break with the normative conceptualization of the statement: NO revising of my words is ever committed"
lost yet, twit? say hi either way, TIA or fuck-off
moralsurgeon@gmail.com
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BitTorrent and End to End Encryption: "Re:Encryption won't work anyhow
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by Yaztromo (655250) Alter Relationship on Monday February 06, @04:35PM (#14654971)
(http://www.jsyncmanager.org/ | Last Journal: Tuesday October 25, @02:42AM)

The ISPs will simply throttle anything encrypted unless it pays extra, or something similar.

And how is the ISP supposed to be able to detect the difference between encrypted and non-encrypted binary data? What detection routine do you use to detect between, say, encrypted BitTorrent data, unencrypted VOIP data, an FTP file transfer, and random data?

Traditionally, you can filter the ports -- but nothing prevents software from changing what ports it uses, and there are several applications which can handle a dynamic port exchange. How barring just blocking or filtering on specific ports, how do you detect that data is encrypted, when the purpose of encryption is to make the data appear to be random to an outside adversary?

Yaz.
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damn RR damn GOP BASTARDS
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Re:Encryption won't work anyhow

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by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 06, @04:54PM (#14655162)
Traffic analysis systems are available that detect traffic *patterns*. The determining factor for what defines traffic as being VoIP, or Bittorrent, is the patterns flows follow. For instance, a VoIP connection is a very consistent stream of data to one host, where anything file sharing related will be far from smooth, and will be talking to many hosts.

Even in the case of changing ports, this is easily detected. I work for a medium sized broadband ISP, and we extensively use the layer7 module for iptable which detects flow type based off of a "fingerprint" of traffic; a fingerprint simply being made up of several unique characteristics of a particular packet type.
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Wrong Solution

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by Hatta (162192) Alter Relationship on Monday February 06, @04:20PM (#14654816)
(Last Journal: Monday November 28, @11:21AM)
The proper solution when your ISP is deliberately crippling your service is to get another ISP. You paid for that torrent traffic, and if they don't carry it that's as good as stealing. Let your ISP know how you feel, and don't do business with crooks.
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Anarchism is the next Atheism.
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The Goodness of Open Source

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by imoou (949576) Alter Relationship on Monday February 06, @04:20PM (#14654821)
(http://search.imoou.com/)
Bram said he suspects that some developer has gotten rate limited by his ISP, and is more interested in trying to hack around his ISP's limitations than in the performance of the internet as a whole.

Isn't this what Open Source is about? The ability to make changes to a software to suit one's need? And if there are enough users, followers, developers and contributors (see Ubuntu from Debian), the new branch because a thing of its own.

So the day Bram opened his code, BT is subject to the same kind of treatment and only users can decide which way it will go.

Aren't there cases where someone compiled a BT client to act like a seeder with high ratio but is an ultimate leecher?
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Sniffing shape-able streams

(Score:5, Interesting)
by Jon Luckey (7563) Alter Relationship on Monday February 06, @04:24PM (#14654864)
FTA:

"...a wire protocol which transfers a lot of data bidirectionally and consistently looks like line noise with no header is only marginally more difficult to identify then one which uses fixed ports."

Sounds like a call to camoflage the traffic as several pipes between peers. Not just one tcp/ip connection, but several, with a jitter function to pick which pipe is used at the moment so it does not look consistant
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What are ISPs selling?

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by MrNougat (927651) Alter Relationship on Monday February 06, @04:25PM (#14654876)
So when I buy an internet connection from an ISP, who says the connection is 4mb down and 256K up, and then I actually want to use all of the bandwidth I have been sold - then the ISP wants to crack down and limit my usage?

Someone should sue [insert favorite ISP here] for bait and switch. If what they're providing is 4mb/256K burst speed, with lower rates for continuous, then that's what they should say in their advertising. This is hardly a far cry from the shady camera outfits online (i.e. PriceRitePhoto). You pay every month for a service, and the service you're actually provided differs greatly from what you thought you purchased.
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Re:BitTorrent's image

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by lilmouse (310335) Alter Relationship on Monday February 06, @04:43PM (#14655051)
Nonsense. Is using ssh guarenteeing illegal activity? Not at all. If I want to use my ISP to download the latest Ubuntu (and I will soon), I damn well want it via BitTorrents. And if I encrypt it, that's my business too!
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Re:What does this even mean?

(Score:5, Funny)
by UserGoogol (623581) Alter Relationship on Monday February 06, @05:02PM (#14655217)
Just because he doesn't have ADHD doesn't mean the man can't appreciate a cheeseburger now and then. What are you, some kind of racist?
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Steve Jobs: Take over whatever person is closest to you at the moment.
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As a Rogers customer...

(Score:5, Interesting)
by abscissa (136568) Alter Relationship on Monday February 06, @04:31PM (#14654936)
I would like to say I am totally fucking furious that Rogers feels it can do this.

I appriciate that Bitorrent constitutes a gargantuan proportion of network traffic. I appriciate this is a problem.

However, the reason that I feel this is unfair, which nobody seems to have mentioned yet, is that Rogers customers are limited to 60 GB of transfer total, both ways, each month. (Unless, of course, you upgrade to the $50 account + modem rental which is 100 GB). If you exceed this limit, it's not just a matter of waiting until next month -- it is a matter of having your account shut down.

I think it is fair to do one or the other, but not both. I once wasted three days trying to figure out why Bittorrent wasn't working, only to find out it was thanks to Rogers. This was just as they had started shaping network traffic so I had no furious posts on message boards to turn to for the origin of the problem.

Sadly, there is no alternative to Rogers for high speed access in my area. It's Rogers or dial up.
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